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Real time social media support

A recent Facebook "post" by voip pundit Jeff Pulver on "real time" social media got me thinking about what what be an extremely useful Facebook app- a Skype app that would

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up either ad hoc or scheduled conference calls.

Skype already has a multiperson audio/video vonage holdings corp phone news service capability and a host of add ons to do things like whiteboarding, application sharing and many others. I know there is already a "Skype" application for Facebook but it is bordering on useless (which is close to the utility of most Facebook apps that I have seen but that is another discussion)

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Skype outage cause clarified

It is heartening to see the Skype response to the deafening roar from the anti Microsoft 3com voip problems saying Microsoft somehow caused the Skype outage:

It's not packet8 reviews you say. It's what they hear...We don't blame anyone but ourselves. The Microsoft Update patches were merely a catalyst - a trigger - for a series of events that led to the disruption of Skype, not the root cause of it. And Microsoft has been very helpful and supportive throughout.



Skype problems

Hmm -- it seems like Skype has gone tits up. The client is in a continual "Skype (connecting)" state and has been for an hour or so. From the Skype status page:

UPDATED 14:02 GMT: Some of you may be having problems logging into Skype. Our engineering team has determined that it’s a software issue. We expect this to be

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within Implementation of softphone in H.323 protocol to 24 hours. Meanwhile, you can simply leave your Skype client running and as soon as the issue is resolved, you will be logged in. We apologize for the inconvenience.

12 to 24 hours!



Skype

Last year I commented (well maybe I whined?) about the lack of progress in the real time conferencing on the Internet front.

I hadn't really been paying much attention but lately I have been looking into the add-ins available for Skype. It seems that internet phone ubiquity (and availability of a usable API) has spawned a host of tools cost to start a VOIP service the small ad hoc meeter including a couple of whiteboards, application sharing tools, and file sharing tools. With Skypes multi way audio/video conferencing functionality it looks like sipser 3.11 solution might be starting to fulfil the promise of NetMeeting.

I haven't had a chance to use any of these add-ins though. Has anybody tried them? Which ones? Do they support Skype's multiparty functions?



Visitalk.com ghost

In 1999 (I think that that is the timing) I was invited to go to Phoenix (on their dime) to visit a company (visitalk.com) with grand plans to build a "internet phone directory" mostly aimed at NetMeeting users. At the time I had some standing in the NetMeeting world being one of two Microsoft voip providers chicago MVPs (the other was Robert Scoble of Scobleizer fame). I wasn't totally sure why I was voice over ip india (maybe it was a job interview?) but I found out they had grand expansion plans, somewhat vague business plans, and apparently $50 million dollars that they were burning through at a furious rate.

When I returned I added a mini review to my NetMeeting information site. Shortly after that apparently the money ran out, visitalk.com declared bankruptcy and that seemed the end of it.

But the site www.visitalk.com stayed. To this day at least 7 years after bankruptcy it continues to operate -- apparently able to take payments for the internet service that I doubt still operates.

A true ghost from the past.



Digital Meeting on the Internet

I have been involved with NetMeeting for so long that I have turned grey in the process. And NetMeeting has gotten old and grey in the process as well. Microsoft's decision to retire NetMeeting

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basically abandoning development in 1999) is no doubt the right decision. What surprises me is that there is no other product out there with the promise that NetMeeting once had (at least for me). What I expected from NetMeeting when it first came free internet phone calls was that it would evolve into a product that supported:

ad hoc multiparty audio/video meetings (or at least multiparty audio) over the Internet without the need for a separate server (except perhaps for location and presence information) multiparty data sharing could happen during the meeting (application sharing, whiteboard sharing, file sharing seemed like a good basic set)

No product today supports this functionality set and it seems none have plans to do so. Msn Messenger supports one to one audio/video, and one to one data sharing. Skype supports serverless multiparty audio/video (currently just in beta vonage specials think). GoogleTalk supports VoIP solutions austin little despite a recent release and some misplaced hype.

What is the problem here? Does nobody else recognize the need? Or are there still some barriers that I am not aware of?

I recognize that along the way there were various technological and infrastructure barriers in the way:

individual bandwidth restrictions were a problem -there is a lot of personal bandwidth connectivity in at least most of the western world -- not much dialup anymore computing power to sipser 7.40 and mix audio/video in the past has been a problem -- today many machines have  more than ample computer power internet gateways were a block on some types of interaction -- but UPnP functionality in modern gateway devices has largely eliminated that problem

Is there some barrier still left that I am not seeing? Why hasn't this technology developed beyond 1999?

 



H.323 is dead

Of this there can

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no doubt. It really isn't "news" though. It essentially has been in a state of limbo since 1999 -- when the last update for NetMeeting was released by Microsoft (and the revelation that there will be no NetMeeting in Vista is no suprise). Shortly thereafter Microsoft chose to break up the NetMeeting development team and go in another direction. The machinations following that decision (at least for Microsoft software users) have been somewhat painful.

Pity though -- neither NetMeeting vonage specials anything that followed have delivered on the initial promise (and what interested me in NetMeeting in the first place) - the ability to do real-time multiparty audio conversations with "shared space" data sharing over the internet.



Skype 2.0 10 way conferencing

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Festoon looks interesting

This appeared this morning.

Festoon looks like a

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that has a chance to catch on. It seems simple, straightforward to use, apparently supports multiparty audio/video (and one to many with up to 200 viewers), and has an application and desktop sharing feature. It will piggyback on the Skype or
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calling and presence functions. I really haven't seen it in action and don't know whether it is practical (especially from a bandwidth usage point of view) but seems to offer everything that I vonage router problems ago wished NetMeeting had.

It seems to have a shortcoming that was also obvious in NetMeeting though (though there at least a pull through of other Microsoft product purchase was potentially possible)-- there seems to be no obvious way to make money.

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